Dr Julian Lewis: Is it not a fine state of affairs when a former Welsh Office Minister of the status of the hon. Member for Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (Mr Rowlands) sees fit to describe the present arrangements as a shambles? Does not that only go to show what happens when a Government imposes, for ideological reasons, a system that is not wanted by the majority of the people in Wales and which squeaked through by only 6,000 votes in the whole country on a tiny turnout, despite the Prime Minister begging his Labour supporters in Wales to let the proposal go through?